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	<title>More Jo</title>
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	<description>The opinions, experience, insights, mistakes and other ramblings of this alternative minded mom</description>
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		<title>Re-Post On Weapon Play</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A member of a message board recently asked about boys and weapon play.  It reminded me of the post on that topic I made a few years ago on my old More Jo blog:
Weapon Play
I was not going to allow pretend guns for my child. Never. Of course, when my first pregnancy test came [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A member of a message board recently asked about boys and weapon play.  It reminded me of the post on that topic I made a few years ago on my old More Jo blog:</p>
<p>Weapon Play</p>
<p>I was not going to allow pretend guns for my child. Never. Of course, when my first pregnancy test came up with 2 lines, I was still a raging feminist. Convinced, I was, that gender was nurture. <img src='http://goybparenting.com/morejo/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My (veteran of foreign war)  (ex) DH humored me. We compromised. I told my DH that I would not &#8220;freak out&#8221; if my son wanted to make weapons out of sticks (as my DH assured me he would want to do). I also relented; I would not prohibit my son from playing with boys who wanted to use pretend weapons.</p>
<p>I was certain, though, and smug. With my unisex, gender neutral environment, my son would surely prefer making a diorama to raging war. <img src='http://goybparenting.com/morejo/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Then, at an (unenlightened) friend&#8217;s house, my son got his chubby little preschool hands on a pretend gun. And played with an edge that was palpable and weird and icky. In that moment, I knew I needed to either *completely* ban weapon play or *completely* allow it. The next day, I honored that mother&#8217;s voice. We went to Toys R Us and got our first pretend gun.</p>
<p>My son played with it exclusively for 2 days. And then it became a proportionately appropriate prop to help kill the deer, find the bad guy and process the heady subjects of power, control, war, peace, good and evil.</p>
<p>I watched that son (now 8), his friend (6) and my youngest (4.5) play with pretend weapons today. They played a wonderful, imaginative, creative and complex game in the backyard.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve come to see weapon play (and guns are certainly not the only or even best way to provide it) as a *need*. I&#8217;ve come to see my uneasiness with it as both a gender, and adult, a controlling and a non issue. My son(s) do not bring to weapon play the baggage I do. And, they don&#8217;t emerge from weapon play with the attitude I feared (and felt certain) they would.</p>
<p>In my home, you&#8217;ll find a variety of toys that help my children move, think, play, dream and thrive. </p>
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		<title>In Need Of Testimonials</title>
		<link>http://goybparenting.com/morejo/?p=13</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has been suggested to me that I ask for and compile testimonials about how my parenting advice over the years as helped families.  
If you are so inclined, please email me through or one of my other links.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been suggested to me that I ask for and compile testimonials about how my parenting advice over the years as helped families.  </p>
<p>If you are so inclined, please email me through or one of my other links.</p>
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		<title>Yikes.  I had forgotten.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had forgotten what it&#8217;s like to put your words out there on hot button issues.  Yesterday, I had the pleasure of the following email:
How about going for a drink?
Ha ha.  The ironic thing about me &#8220;defending&#8221; spanking is that even if I were a &#8220;spank &#8216;em for God&#8221; type, I would highly [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had forgotten what it&#8217;s like to put your words out there on hot button issues.  Yesterday, I had the pleasure of the following email:</p>
<p><strong>How about going for a drink?</p>
<p>Ha ha.  The ironic thing about me &#8220;defending&#8221; spanking is that even if I were a &#8220;spank &#8216;em for God&#8221; type, I would highly discourage alcoholics from using corporal discipline on their children because alcohol lowers people&#8217;s inhibitions.  Then there IS a real potential that spanking could lead to abuse.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m glad you don&#8217;t spank your kids.</strong></p>
<p>Lovely, eh?</p>
<p>My reply:</p>
<p><em>Dear {first name from yahoo email},</p>
<p>Clearly you did not read much of my site.  My parenting approach has little to do with whether or not a parent spanks.</p>
<p>Drinking is not an issue for me; I have not had a drink in going on 17 years - 5 years prior to having my first child.</p>
<p>Have a terrific weekend and take care.</p>
<p>Joanne</em></p>
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		<title>Questions and Stories Needed</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[I am going to be creating a newsletter for people to buy a subscription to.  People who attend a seminar, a class or pay for phone coaching will automatically get one for free.
I &#8220;need&#8221; questions to answer for the newsletter.  I would also cherish success stories of EPP, GBD or positive discipline success. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to be creating a newsletter for people to buy a subscription to.  People who attend a seminar, a class or pay for phone coaching will automatically get one for free.</p>
<p>I &#8220;need&#8221; questions to answer for the newsletter.  I would also cherish success stories of EPP, GBD or positive discipline success.  If it involves my help from the past, all the better.</p>
<p>Email to:  midlyfehcrysalis@aol.com</p>
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		<title>Yikes!   Q &#038; A Nightmare</title>
		<link>http://goybparenting.com/morejo/?p=10</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q:  My ex husband almost always has his girlfriend sleep over when he has the kids, who are only 8 and 10.  What can I do to make him stop?
A:This is a sensitive topic that requires face-to-face meeting with him.  Stay calm and rational, and start by affirming his right to date. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Q:  My ex husband almost always has his girlfriend sleep over when he has the kids, who are only 8 and 10.  What can I do to make him stop?</em><br />
<strong>A:This is a sensitive topic that requires face-to-face meeting with him.  Stay calm and rational, and start by affirming his right to date.  Then explain why your children shouldn&#8217;t be exposed to his personal life.  Point out that they can quickly form attachments to girlfriends and feel hurt when they leave the scene, and that it&#8217;s inappropriate for him to have sex when they&#8217;re around, even behind closed doors.  Share with him any comments the kids have made (&#8221;Mom, it&#8217;s so weird when Dad and his girlfriend disappear into the bedroom&#8221;).  Then ask him to stop inviting his girlfriend over when the kids are there.  If he refuses, talk with his friends and ask them to speak up for you.  If he won&#8217;t change sufficiently and you feel it&#8217;s in your kids&#8217; best interest, consult your about suspending his visitation rights.</strong></p>
<p>This, on page 130 of Family Circle.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m aghast at the complete lack of boundaries, the inappropriate roles and lack of *parenting* advice offered here.</p>
<p>The reality in co-parenting is you have very little or no control or say over what happens &#8220;there&#8221;.  Short of neglect or abuse, you do not have the right to comment on your ex&#8217;s personal life.  In addition, to have the conversation this &#8220;expert&#8221; recommends, you declare open season on your own.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not defending having a casual relationship &#8220;in front of the kids&#8221;.  Certainly there are better choices to be made.  But the Answer Expert assumes that the couple is having sex indiscriminately, assumes a morality as a standard that is not outlined.</p>
<p>The fact that the expert thinks suspending visitation rights is a viable option is frightening.  Talking to his friends?  I don&#8217;t think I could write a prescription for a more inappropriate action on the part of an ex spouse.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been on both sides of this bed fence.  On the day my xh&#8217;s girlfriend was moving here from NC, we were all at a Little League game of my sons.  I was trying to be positive for my kids, making it safe for them to like Susan.  I asked if they had &#8220;exciting plans&#8221; for the day.  My dd informed me that they were going to watch the game, go to Popeye&#8217;s &#8220;or something cheap&#8221; for lunch, that when they got back, &#8220;Daddy and Susan were going to take a nap&#8221; and they might see a movie later that night.</p>
<p>My outward response: &#8220;Oh.  Sounds like a plan&#8221;.</p>
<p>My inward response?  It doesn&#8217;t really matter.  I gave up say when I told him to &#8220;go&#8221;.  His plan for the weekend didn&#8217;t harm the kids.  In addition, having a healthy, boundaried and objective conversation with him over his sexual relationship with his now wife was not an achievable goal.</p>
<p>Ex&#8217;s typically don&#8217;t behave the way we&#8217;d prefer.  Let&#8217;s do our kids a favor and help them process the things that *are* an issue for them.  While doing so, let&#8217;s have appropriate boundaries around the life choices, behavior of our ex spouses.</p>
<p>FTR, my personal standard for introducing someone to my kids was that we were exclusively dating and could see a permanent future.  I couldn&#8217;t decide on that future until I saw him with my kids.  I introduced my now husband to them after Christmas last year.  He began spending lots of time here, with an air mattress upstairs or blankets on the couch.  </p>
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		<title>Less Jo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know most of you reading have never seen me.  Until now, I&#8217;ve even been scarce with pictures.
I&#8217;ve lost 50 pounds since this time last year.  I did so using a combination of divorce, bankruptcy and low carb.  I recently joined Weight Watchers Online (Core) to lose the next 40 or thereabouts. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know most of you reading have never seen me.  Until now, I&#8217;ve even been scarce with pictures.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve lost 50 pounds since this time last year.  I did so using a combination of divorce, bankruptcy and low carb.  I recently joined Weight Watchers Online (Core) to lose the next 40 or thereabouts.  My kids all call me &#8220;skinny mommy&#8221;.  While I am a long way from skinny (and I do not have a desire to get there), my hourglass figure is looking leaner.  What amazes me is that at my weight (187), I am still considered &#8220;obese&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I never felt &#8220;obese&#8221;, although when I was at my highest of 226, I would accept the label.  But now?  Fitting into size 12&#8217;s and 14&#8217;s?  Even given vanity sizing, I think &#8220;obese&#8221; is a largely (pun intended) inaccurate way of judging health.</p>
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		<title>Publish or Starve</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently left a cherished internet home.  Go ahead, click and visit.  Gentle Christian Mothers is a great place, a tremendous resource and terrific ministry.
My leaving was a culmination of several things.  Ostensibly, it was over the topic of food and kids.  Food is one area in which I do have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently left a cherished <a href="http://www.gentlechristianmothers.com/mb/">internet home</a>.  Go ahead, click and visit.  Gentle Christian Mothers is a great place, a tremendous resource and terrific ministry.</p>
<p>My leaving was a culmination of several things.  Ostensibly, it was over the topic of food and kids.  Food is one area in which I do have regrets and I would do it differently.  The biggest issue of contention was my policy of &#8220;eat or starve&#8221;.  My children are now 12.5, nearly 11 and going on 9.  They can, indeed, eat what I prepare or not eat until the next planned food.</p>
<p>Eh.  Lots of big feelings over the emotional or literal implications of a mom saying &#8220;eat or starve&#8221;.  <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/HSmom23/100_0225_edited.jpg" title="Here are my starved kids." alt="Here are my starved kids." align="right" height="338" hspace="5" vspace="5" width="450" />.</p>
<p>The larger issue at work was the difference between parenting littles and parenting mediums.  Although I&#8217;d change things even for my littles, I&#8217;d block some natural consequences for them.  A hungry child gets cranky and difficult.  If my 2, 3 or 4 year old didn&#8217;t eat at a scheduled meal time and later showed signs of being hungry, I&#8217;d offer the same meal or an acceptable, healthy alternative.</p>
<p>But an older, school aged child?  Not so much.  They should have a more varied palate, larger capacity to eat even if it&#8217;s not their favorite.  A cranky 10 year old who is cranky for not having eaten an acceptable meal can wait. In waiting, they can wait nicely or wait alone.</p>
<p>The issue at GCM was also, in part, an arguement of &#8220;Gentle&#8221; parenting and the more firm, less accomodating side of non punitive discipline I&#8217;ve always represented.  I won&#8217;t change.  It&#8217;s important, primary even, that people know my parenting approach, while not punitive and adversarial is not permissive.</p>
<p>Finally, and the reason I left, is because leaders there were allowed to make statements (of abuse, punitiveness, creating eating disorders) that would not have been allowed towards any other poster.  It&#8217;s a natural consequence of my posting style and moderating preference.  I&#8217;m direct and hard hitting and I don&#8217;t like heavy moderation on a forum.  People assume, therefore, that I &#8220;can take it&#8221; and the leadership chose to let the multiple threads unfold unmoderated.  The rules were different because it was me.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s ok.  I am now focusing on my book, my sites, offering seminars and classes. I hope to replace the income I&#8217;ll lose next year when my long term daycare clients &#8220;age out&#8221; of needing me.  I hope to replace that income with teaching about parenting.</p>
<p>Please, if you are so inclined, visit my <a href="http://zazzle.com/goybparenting*" target="_blank">zazzle</a> and see if there is anything you&#8217;d find useful.</p>
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		<title>Being a Firm Mom&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On a board I frequent, we were having a discussion about being a hard ass mom. In searching for my own writing on the topic, I realized that I&#8217;ve never publicly written anything on the topic outside of specific AP topics.
My readership (is that a word?) is comprised mostly of alternative/AP parents, or at least [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a board I frequent, we were having a discussion about being a hard ass mom. In searching for my own writing on the topic, I realized that I&#8217;ve never publicly written anything on the topic outside of specific AP topics.</p>
<p>My readership (is that a word?) is comprised mostly of alternative/AP parents, or at least folks who have heard that kids can be parented non punitively and learn how to sleep without being subjected to crying it out as an infant.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also noticed, as the topics change with the ages of my own children, a lack of information on the need for absolutely firm parenting within the positive model. There are plenty of people espousing a punitive model who would agree to the need for authoritative  atmosphere. But within the positive model, parents are often reluctant to diagnose and remedy the downward spiral that results from failing to meet the parenting needs of a strong willed child.</p>
<p>Positive parenting/AP looks nice, cozy and warm and cuddly - when it&#8217;s present in a family where the children respond well to that dynamic. But when you have a child who requires a different tone and tenor present with a parent who is reluctant to expand their concept of positive parenting, a nasty dynamic can emerge.</p>
<p>Some children, for whatever reason, require absolute firm boundaries. These children often need firm, stern and even cold-seeming delivery. They need limited choices, truncated explanations and rigid rules. It was children like this that have inspired the links I wrote above.</p>
<p>For these children, gentle transitions make things worse. Explanation makes things worse. &#8220;Reasoning&#8221; makes things worse. These children react with passion when offered &#8220;the blue toothbrush or the red one&#8221;. They begin to meltdown when given a &#8220;5 minute warning for leaving&#8221;. Parents often think the reaction is the limit rather than the delivery. With children who require stern, hard ass parenting, it&#8217;s not the brushing the teeth that&#8217;s the issue. It&#8217;s the presence of a choice. It&#8217;s not leaving the park. It&#8217;s that &#8220;later&#8221; is too nebulous.</p>
<p>Like sleep issues, nursing, hugs, play and other normal parenting moments mentioned in the link above - the alternative parenting community often imbues interactions with immunity from stern parenting. The truth is, though, that if you have a child who requires it, you will soon be immersed in resentment, anger, fear and disrespect from the child. This emerges from the child&#8217;s deep need for absolute boundaries and grows to critical mass unless the parent trusts that small voice saying &#8220;Be firm&#8221;.</p>
<p>Firm, in this regard, means that you can not repeat yourself, passively expecting compliance. As Jane Nelsen says &#8220;Say it Once, and Act&#8221;. Or, as Joanne Davidson says: Get off your butt. Firm means that you say &#8220;No&#8221; and leave it at that. No explanation. No further comment. Firm means that &#8220;knock it off&#8221;, either verbatim or in sentiment is required. Choices, explanations, qualifiers, incremental transitions all communicate to the child a lack of parental certainty. This makes this kind of child feel insecure&#8230;&#8230;and unloved.</p>
<p>The danger of the truths above is, of course, a tendency to apply punishment and shame in the hard ass parenting. And there is a risk of disconnect amidst the hard ass-ing. That&#8217;s where proactive parenting foundations come in. Connection, affection, playfulness, routine and speaking the correct love language need to be as present as the firmly delivered rules.</p>
<p>This entry will undoubtedly create a rash of email or comments. I can predict the patterns. Some will say that they&#8217;ve parented positively with smiles, joy, communication, transitional help, choices and flexibility and their family is thriving. Yes. <img src='http://goybparenting.com/morejo/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> That works when you don&#8217;t have a child who is wired to need a different tone.</p>
<p>Some will say &#8220;My kid is rude, difficult, challenging, but I believe in positive/AP parenting and will continue what I&#8217;m doing, thanks.&#8221;</p>
<p>But some will recognize themselves in the words above. It that is you, there are books, people, suggestions and advice to help you get from where you are to what is *authentically* a positive home.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.users.qwest.net/~fsdebra1/dmfences.html">An old online friend has a related article&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>Neediness</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On a wonderful board I frequent, I responded to a thread about a needy 2 year old. I didn&#8217;t realize how crstyalized my thoughts on the subject had become. I wrote a related entry here.
Some kids have a personality to where there is never enough. And when you respond with more of what they request, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a wonderful board I frequent, I responded to a thread about a needy 2 year old. I didn&#8217;t realize how crstyalized my thoughts on the subject had become. I wrote a related entry here.</p>
<p>Some kids have a personality to where there is never enough. And when you respond with more of what they request, they feel more insecure, not less. In the AP/alternative community, this dynamic is rarely acknowledged. Unless you are talking about Pop Tarts. But things such as requests for play, hugs, nursing have been granted immunity status. Surely a child can&#8217;t ask for too much attention, can they? Yes, they can. A child who is never satiated, secured and filled up can and will keep asking for time and attention. That child has a need. But it&#8217;s not for more time and attention. It&#8217;s for more intuitive, more authoritative, more confident parenting.</p>
<p>My oldest can never be filled. When he was much younger, the requests for time, attention, hugs, nursing, play *never ended*. While I don&#8217;t think that AP created that, I do think that failiing to move into a different mode of AP exacerbated it. His requests for play, hugs, time, attention and nursing were really requests for limits, routine, schedule and a firm assurance that he is okay.</p>
<p>I think the problem is when *childcare* becomes the focus instead of *homemaking*. If we are unable to make a home, we create a child centered dynamic. Some children are very, very sensitive to that and react with neediness (others are sensitive to it and react with bossiness).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll offer a bold generalization. With a 2 year old, yes, I do expect to have frequent 15-20 minute chunks of time in which to engage in a project.</p>
<p>What I did was realize that my son&#8217;s requests and neediness were not serving our family. And that he needed predictable and dependable times together and to develop the knowledge that times apart were fine, as well. It took some intense coaching and verbal assurances, but we did it. The change was remarkable. He became more independent and able, more confident and happy.</p>
<p>I imposed a routine/schedule. I scheduled our meals, snacks, play together time, play apart time, housekeeping, nursing, etc. And I meant it when I said &#8220;our play time is over. I love you and we&#8217;ll do this again at 4:30. Until then, Mommy is going to do some things in the kitchen. You can play in your kitchen cabinet.&#8221; For a while, I also included a &#8220;say goodbye to our time together&#8221; ritual.</p>
<p>Did he cry. Yes, for a bit. Did he cling? Yes, for a bit. But he soon emerged confident and finally *satiated*. He was asking for complete attention. He needed structure.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Attachment Parenting and recent developments in understanding temperament have made a wonderful difference in parenting our children.  However, these changes have not occurred without creating some challenges and issues.
Over my parenting years, I’ve often read about and used terms such as “high need”, “intense”, “and spirited”.  I’ve even used some more clinical terms [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attachment Parenting and recent developments in understanding temperament have made a wonderful difference in parenting our children.  However, these changes have not occurred without creating some challenges and issues.</p>
<p>Over my parenting years, I’ve often read about and used terms such as “high need”, “intense”, “and spirited”.  I’ve even used some more clinical terms such as “Sensory Integration Disorder”.  Many books, articles and sites have developed to explain these attributes and build understanding community around parents who’ve BTDT.  This is a good thing.</p>
<p>There has been some backlash.  Some articles, experts, authors and commenters who disagree wholeheartedly with AP or labels they declare give permission for out of control children.  I disagree with these authors wholeheartedly.</p>
<p>However, I depart from many passionate, thinking, researched and wonderful people in the AP community in some of these areas.  I *do* think that high needs (under any name) can be created.  I think existing high neediness can be exacerbated.  I think we can create and/or allow monsters.  Monsters that can and should be tamed.</p>
<p>I absolutely think that children can and are born with extra issues.  I birthed one myself.  A significant percentage of “more” children are so due to reactions to the complex world we live in: food and environmental allergy, artificial lighting, sensory issues, autism spectrum manifestation.</p>
<p>I don’t think each child labeled “high need” is high need by birth.  I don’t think each child labeled “hyperactive” “ADD”, “spirited” was born with these propensities.  And I think some who were born with the propensity have been allowed to express themselves so often that they’ve created instead of curbed neediness.</p>
<p>To get more specific, I’ve seen moms who honor their children’s temperaments while still asserting, defining and establishing boundaries.  These moms will leave stores; refuse to let their child hurt them or anyone else, structure days to set the stage for success.  OTOH, I’ve seen moms so afraid of the expression of their children; they avoid conflict and therefore the child moves forward, gathering a momentum of power that far outweighs the child’s ability to control.</p>
<p>I’ve seen babies who nurse nearly 24/7.  I had one of those.  But, I agree with Aletha Solter that we can *create* that habit of neediness in a frantic effort to prevent crying.  Solter insists, (and I agree) that crying babies need to be held – but I don’t agree that all babies are meant to be quieted.  I agree with Solter that some babies process the world by crying.  And, I think that day by day, month by month of trying to get the crying to stop by offering the breast (pacifier, food, etc) can exacerbate the neediness.</p>
<p>As the child grows, I see the same thing with regard to attention span and the ability to play independently.  I think I made some mistakes in this area.  In my zeal to provide consistent, nurturing care, I deprived Andrew of starting to develop his muscles of delayed gratification and the ability to engage in independent play.  A bit of frustration over learning to crawl might have enabled him at 8.5 to start his grammar before expressing that he “can’t do it”.</p>
<p>I learned, too, after having more than one child that getting to a baby/child the moment they express themselves isn’t an across the board good thing.  My younger 2 children are much more easy going and adaptable.  Partly due to temperament, partly due to the fact that with more than one, I *couldn’t* respond immediately all the time.  They made a remarkable discovery:  they could recover themselves or wait a minute, often happily.  I didn’t have to rush to them nor did I have to abandon them in order to begin to let them learn and practice patience.</p>
<p>Early on with my passion for positive parenting, I went overboard on *feelings*.  Feelings reigned supreme and the need to validate, label, name and embrace them obscured the need to teach my children how to have feeling *and* manage the expression of those feelings.  I would have cringed had anyone suggest I help my son gain perspective and modulate. I would have felt that they were suggesting that I tell my son how to feel.  Today, I have no problems telling my children.  “You’re reaction is an 8.  The situation is a 3.  You need to gain control over how you are acting.”  I still don’t punish for feelings (I don’t really punish for anything).  But nor do I let my children hold me or others hostage with the expression of the feeling.</p>
<p>Balanced, moderated parenting occurs when standards are (mostly) static.  I will not change the standard of behavior because my (non special needs) children have a label that is “more”.  It’s not okay for a 2 year old to scream in a store, period.  It’s more likely that a spirited child *will* scream in a store, but no less acceptable.  Abusive responses, however, are not necessary no matter how challenging the child.</p>
<p>We need to understand that “high needs” exists.  Understanding High Needs can offer us strategies, ideas, community and support.  It should not, however, be used as a vehicle which our children are given to drive through normal social structures, expectations, courtesies and activities. </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I began my parenting journey attending LLL meetings.  I read Dr. Sears.  I read newer AP books as they came out.  I used all the AP “tools”.  I breastfed, co slept, cuddled, responded and developed a huge disdain for Ferber, Ezzo and other, more adversarial parenting paradigms.
Eventually, I got online.  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I began my parenting journey attending LLL meetings.  I read Dr. Sears.  I read newer AP books as they came out.  I used all the AP “tools”.  I breastfed, co slept, cuddled, responded and developed a huge disdain for Ferber, Ezzo and other, more adversarial parenting paradigms.</p>
<p>Eventually, I got online.  I readily found lots of support for my parenting style and soon developed plenty of online relationships to support my choices. </p>
<p>Part of my paradigm was the firm, nearly rigid belief that a baby/child can’t ask to nurse “too much”. In addition to that, I believed in child-led weaning and on demand breastfeeding until that time. </p>
<p>As the years went on, however, my approach wasn’t working for my oldest.  Our mutual discomfort and uneasiness was explained away by the facts that I had added 2 more nurslings.  It seemed plausible, actually, so I persevered.  And I led my oldest and I into a horrible dynamic.  I took the advice of seasoned AP moms who I respected.  I offered to nurse more, answered “yes”, tried “don’t offer, don’t refuse”.  I limited length of nursing.</p>
<p>And my oldest still kept asking to nurse, often.  *Too* often for his age, although I was hard pressed to find someone who understood or agreed – at least in my circle. </p>
<p>The truth is that he was miserable; I was miserable.  Looking back, I intuitively knew it was centered around nursing – but I ignored that.  He was asking *constantly* and I was avoiding him.  In that way, the suggestions that he needed me to be available and willing seemed plausible. I *was* avoiding him.  I was avoiding eye contact, sitting down, affection, games and play.  Each of those led immediately to a request to *nurse*.  And from each nursing session, my son would emerge just as insecure, needy, and whiny.</p>
<p>The dramatic conclusion of this dynamic came when he deliberately tried to hurt himself so I would nurse him.  That’s when I finally had to admit *something* was wrong.</p>
<p>I posted on an alternative site where the moms were full of support and love.  But, no real experienced understanding of nursing a child like I am describing.  I didn’t understand, either, at the time.  An AP mom contacted me privately and said:  limit him.</p>
<p>LIMIT HIM?  That would never work!  She, patiently, pointed out that what we were doing wasn’t working, either.  Given his age(4), she suggested limiting him to once a day, the same time everyday.  I did that and he chose before bed.  She suggested I make no exceptions but I didn’t see how an exception for illness or hurt would matter. </p>
<p>Andrew responded beautifully to the limits.  It was like a sigh of relief went through his whole body.  Like he let go of 2 year’s worth of stress, worry and anxiety.  He was a different *child*, not just a different nursling.  I found out soon enough why there could not be any exceptions – they created an immediate regression.</p>
<p>Looking back with some experience, insight and hindsight, I can it clearly now.  At first, I limited him because I though *I* needed the limits.  That wasn’t the case.  *He* needed them.  His personality was such that he needed firm, non negotiable, rigid limits on everything he had a passion for.  Nursing was no exception.  The nursing relationship isn’t immune from manifestations of personality and temperament.  It is, in fact, a place were those traits are often most evident.  Andrew continues to crave and need limits in order to thrive.  He needs them on how many hours he can play with friends out front, on talking about baseball, and when to stop asking for something when the answer is “no”.</p>
<p>I’ve since had 2 other nurslings past the age Andrew was when I nursed him.  I did actively limit my daughter after age 4, although not as rigidly; she didn’t need it.  I haven’t had to limit my youngest at all.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.continuum-concept.org/reading/restoringHarmony.html">Here is an article </a>that does a good job of explaining the dynamic.  I didn’t have to wean to restore harmony like this author chose to.</p>
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